- 23 people
- Centre for Conscious Leadership
- structure: introduce everyone, introduce organization
- what makes us proud, excited, fearful to meet each other
- excited: connection, part of queer community, possibility
- fear: challenged by others, revealing, reports to be made, names to be revealed, white space (not very black)
- deep democracy: process of large group, diversity - careful of minorities, introduction to roles in groups, you can change roles during talk, not just a personal view. Hotspots - the facilitators will deheat-support for safety.
- Zuma said he would hit a gay man
- Qwelane's blog taken off Media 24 and being watched at work
- need a queer media forum, media is at talk
- Qwelane should be challenged by his peers
- need a reaction to hate crime, not just reaction to article
- the voice of dead gays, they live in a world where survival is more important than Qwelane's words
- do we want an apology
- is Qwelane's the majority view
- blase about homophobia, don't read it because they don't want it in their headspace
- middle class queers don't have to be exposed to poor lesbians are the least powerful and so many people with power hurt them
- exploitation by white researchers and do nothing to empower
- angry at activists that ignore black women
- forums should be in the townships, need facilitation in community with family.
- Pride is not something that addresses black gays
- Qwelane is in us too, we are abusive
- poor women - they are only safe if they have a use to the people they are with, they use escapism not to face it
- when core issues addressed they get hijacked by politics/activism
- three responses - being, doing, intellectualizing (unsafe and hijacked in intellectual space)
- identity-based prejudice
- courts/legal strategies to get laws passed - didn't bring gays with nor did the public support, need to build a movement, discussion groups are very important
- political environment - going to appeal to populist views like gender/gay bashing
- economic environment - social conservatism follows
- can we mobilize?
- LGBTQI keep adding letters to differentiate ourselves
- activism can have many manifestations
- of course we have to do something about it
- at an individual and collective level
- risk backlash, we should be acting in other social movements, as gays is a global viewpoint
- Qwelane is one of the problems in the environment, etc
- Joint Working Group acts as watchdog
- Ombudsman found that it was not hate speech
- Human Rights Commission said ombudsman was the person wo must make a decision
- Commission for Gender Equality said it is not their mandate
- we don't need an ideology we need a way of working in the world with each other.
Dawkins has become outspoken in his atheism , coining the word "bright" (as an alternate to atheist), and encouraging fellow non-believers to stand up and be identified. intelligent design is creationism redressed creationists are right that evolution is hostile to evolution statistical improbability of the complexity of design - intelligent design but the intelligent designer wouldn't have made such a hash - why would the designer be bothered with disapproving of our sex lives, favor our side in the war Dawkins suggest rocking the boat - attack religion as a whole taboo of speaking ill about religion - Douglas Adams said, sacred ideas at the heart of religion, holy cows, you can support any operating system you want, but the challenge of religious ideas is off limits science and religion are corrosive to each other - religious explanations are trivial and improbably, teaches people to accept authoritarianism takes the example of famous scientists and imagines ...
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