Ruth, not sure what you meant by 'and men who shave to please women'. Powerplay is not tit for tat. If a man doesn't shave he becomes all things nice - a bear, a hipster. If a woman doesn't shave she becomes all things vile because she is dissenting - hairy, feminazi, slovenly, stinks. A man's hairy armpit and a woman's hairy armpit don't hold the same social value.
An individual man who shaves something is given a cogent reason - he shaves his legs, ah, he must be a swimmer.
I hesitate to speak about gay men, because I don't belong to that group, but will take the risk because my point is feminist - under gay men there is also a demand for a certain muscled-slim appearance - 'No Fats or Fems' which I feel also diminishes the power of Fats and Fems in relationships - and yet there are men who seek out Chubbies and Fems.
Rare would be the het man openly seeking fat feminist diesel dyke womxn. Despite the restrictive gay appearance culture, gay men still allow a broader range of gender and sexual performance among men than they do women. I believe that it is transparent and normal and cultural to oppress women in this micro(!)aggressive way, by restricting which behaviours are acceptable.
And both men and women do the oppressing. The patriarchy is not a man thing. It's a man thing performed by men and abetted by women.
An individual man who shaves something is given a cogent reason - he shaves his legs, ah, he must be a swimmer.
I hesitate to speak about gay men, because I don't belong to that group, but will take the risk because my point is feminist - under gay men there is also a demand for a certain muscled-slim appearance - 'No Fats or Fems' which I feel also diminishes the power of Fats and Fems in relationships - and yet there are men who seek out Chubbies and Fems.
Rare would be the het man openly seeking fat feminist diesel dyke womxn. Despite the restrictive gay appearance culture, gay men still allow a broader range of gender and sexual performance among men than they do women. I believe that it is transparent and normal and cultural to oppress women in this micro(!)aggressive way, by restricting which behaviours are acceptable.
And both men and women do the oppressing. The patriarchy is not a man thing. It's a man thing performed by men and abetted by women.
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